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Universal Gunner
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If this guy wont accept it I will not be particularly bothered,but he spent the whole night giving me the evil eye, and for obvious reasons if that happens a second time a confrontation will occur. But I will try to remain calm and reasoned. :whistle:

I'm sorry, but I don't understand why any sort of confrontation from your side is necessary and how it would improve the situation. Would it not just confirm your friend's, misguided, opinion? Aggression will never win any philosophical argument.


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Posted : 20/03/2012 12:54 am
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If this guy wont accept it I will not be particularly bothered,but he spent the whole night giving me the evil eye, and for obvious reasons if that happens a second time a confrontation will occur. But I will try to remain calm and reasoned. :whistle:

I'm sorry, but I don't understand why any sort of confrontation from your side is necessary and how it would improve the situation. Would it not just confirm your friend's, misguided, opinion? Aggression will never win any philosophical argument.

Agreed. What gets to the ignorant twats most is just smirking at them every time they catch your eye. Sounds to me like he was trying to chat your lass up and create a huge difference between you and him to see which side of the abyss she fell. Ignore him, or just smile at him. Either will piss him off :wink:


 
Posted : 20/03/2012 2:12 am
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You often find that the people who are most offended about these sorts of things are the first to defend the actions of present British military escapades overseas and will shout down anyone who lodges a protest about the actions of our military and defend 'our brave lads' as The Sun might put it.

CAVEAT: That is, of course, not to say that I don't think that current serving military personnel do a very difficult job in very harsh environments and deserve our support.

However, I do find it interesting how people will fully accept the one and completely reject the other.




 
Posted : 20/03/2012 10:47 am
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Aggression will never win any philosophical argument.

I think I am misunderstood, I mean to confront verbally not physically, of course sometimes one leads to other but I think the sight of 2 x 50+ year olds rolling around the pub car park slapping eachother might be a tad undignified!

I just want the opportunity to defend myself without being slagged off behind my back, If he wont go along Im no longer interested, will just ignore him. :good:


 
Posted : 20/03/2012 11:54 am
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You could always call him a Nazi C*nt for infringing your freedom...although I fear you might be Godwinning yourself.

;) :giggle:




 
Posted : 20/03/2012 12:10 pm
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Love Godwins law, there are some other laws I like.
I especially like the Dunning-Kruger effect;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 ... ger_effect
We all all subject to that from time to time.
Another one we are all the victim of at work is;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle


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Posted : 20/03/2012 1:40 pm
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The Streisand Effect is a favourite of mine, simply because those in the limelight never seem to learn from it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect




 
Posted : 20/03/2012 2:42 pm
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I also find that those who are most easily offended usually tend to be "outraged" on someone else's behalf:
The fury at wearing para wings without being jump trained will come from some twat whose only experience of jumping is the big step onto the gangway at Lanzarote airport... but their grandad's mate's brother was at Arnhem and so they feel justified in defending the honour of The Regiment, or somesuch bollocks.


 
Posted : 21/03/2012 7:58 am
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kenny everit had the right idear,"round em all up ,put em in a big field and bomb the bas####ds".


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Posted : 21/03/2012 4:50 pm
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With Stukas. Just to make a point. :giggle:



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Posted : 21/03/2012 5:57 pm
rifleman6925
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What people think about me dressing up as a German isn't an issue, as I dont give a shit. It works for me :rofl:


 
Posted : 23/03/2012 2:24 pm
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Sorry forthe bit late post. Locally in South Africa we had a bit of a tiff.

One of the reenactment group wears a very smart SS Panzer Officers uniform. At the recent airshow, to commenrate the 100th year of the SA airforce the re-enactors group were present. Now I learnt something on the day as one of the group wears a German officers outfit but trimmed with purple and the purple ministers "scarf". I had previously thought the German's tried to resurrect the old Nordic gods etc. I chatted to the guy for ages as he was a real minister and he told me the Germans had normal Chaplins as many of the soldiers were Christian. He even had on display a WWII German Sunday mass set. I found this all intriguing. He says there is a group of about 20 such reenactors world wide.

A couple of the guys were in normal German outfits. Some old lady came across and started calling them Neo Nazi's etc. This actually made some of the local papers. Obviously the SS Panzer outfit was a sore point.

The average South African is quite ignorant about events of days gone by. Most thought my LRDG outfit was some modern Arabic uniform. Earlier the day when we had been doing the chopper insertion I had on my Brit Desert DPM and a L108. Most couldn't even recognise this, although we get news coverage of events in the middle east. All they were interested in was the "big gun".

Also in reenactments I normally do a 1st Lieutenant. My back door on this, was I was in my younger years that I did hold a commission.


 
Posted : 05/06/2012 11:21 am
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I had previously thought the German's tried to resurrect the old Nordic gods etc. I chatted to the guy for ages as he was a real minister and he told me the Germans had normal Chaplins as many of the soldiers were Christian. He even had on display a WWII German Sunday mass set. I found this all intriguing. He says there is a group of about 20 such reenactors world wide.

The Neo-Paganism of the Nazis has been consistently overstated, in the upper echelons of the party you have only a couple who had any connection or interrest in it, Boorman (if I remeber correctly) being the flag waver for it. The majority Of the party hierarchy were Catholic or German Lutheran.
In the army itself there is no evidence of any substantial interrest in the pagan, nor of course the occult, and the soldiers had the same cultural ties to their religions upbringings that any other Euopean soldiers had at the time.

It makes great comic books, pulp fictions stories and RPGs, but there is no evidence for it in history.


 
Posted : 05/06/2012 11:58 am
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The Neo-Paganism of the Nazis has been consistently overstated, in the upper echelons of the party you have only a couple who had any connection or interrest in it, Boorman (if I remeber correctly) being the flag waver for it.

The Neo-Pagan rubbish was predominantly down to Himmler, moreso than Bormann, who was mainly just interested in wiping out Christianity. As you say though, it was mainly ignored by the masses, even within the SS.


 
Posted : 05/06/2012 7:33 pm
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All made a great computer game though :good:

How have you got on with this chap?, love the idea of rolling around in the car park...almost worth reenacting out itself!


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Posted : 05/06/2012 8:38 pm
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http://bit.ly/JVQwQt

Read more at: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... s-refugees

Oh dear.

If you value your sanity, don't even begin to read the comments...




 
Posted : 06/06/2012 9:53 am
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http://bit.ly/JVQwQt

Read more at: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... s-refugees

Oh dear.

If you value your sanity, don't even begin to read the comments...

I should really listent to your warnings more.


 
Posted : 06/06/2012 10:54 am
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I don't believe anyone asked these people to dress as anything, let alone refugee Jews. It's either an offhand comment taken out of context or a load of old cobblers. Local rag reporting.


 
Posted : 06/06/2012 12:26 pm
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The Daily Mail are also reporting now apparently. Craig...DO NOT READ DM COMMENTS!!




 
Posted : 06/06/2012 4:50 pm
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Personally I'm shocked to see swastikas openly on sale at militaria fairs. Didn't our ancestors give their lives to rid Britain of them?


 
Posted : 06/06/2012 7:30 pm
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